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oncrete and mortar are both used in building projects but there are some differences in their composition and therefore their strength which means they should not be interchanged and one should not be used as a substitute for the other. Basically concrete is stronger and more durable so it can be used for structural projects such as setting posts whereas mortar is used as a bonding agent for bricks, stones, etc.
Concrete is a mixture of water, cement, and sand just like mortar. However, it also has gravel and other coarse aggregates that make it stronger and more durable, rendering it a fitting choice for flooring and other construction needs by different professionals providing concrete lifting in Denver, and elsewhere. Besides, it also has a low water-to-cement ratio and has a thinner consistency than mortar. In addition, it is often reinforced with steel when used as the structural support of a building. However, concrete can also be supported by the ground such as steps, sidewalks, concrete, and appliance pads. It is ideal for setting posts such as fence posts, mailbox posts, basketball posts, deck posts, lamp posts, and swing sets.
One of the concretes we sell is the Quikrete Fast Setting Concrete Mix. It is a special blend of fast-setting cements, sand, and gravel designed to set hard is approximately 20 to 40 minutes. It allows you to set posts without mixing- just pour dry mix into hole and soak. The strength of this particular concrete is 4000 PSI (pounds per square inch) at 28 days.
Mortar, which is a mixture of water, cement, and sand, has a higher water-to cement ratio than concrete. It has a thicker consistency which makes it a great adhesive and bonding agent for bricks and tiles. Mortar mix can be used for construction and repair of brick, block, and stone for barbecues, pillars, walls, tuck-pointing mortar joints, and planters.
We sell Quikrete Mortar Mix which is a blend of masonry cement and graded sand. You simply add water. The strength of this particular mortar is 750 PSI (pounds per square inch) at 28 days.
See our Concrete Product Brochure here. For information on your specific project, please see our Paint or Hardware department.
If I add sand to my Quikrete will it make it weaker I am building a deck and using Quikrete for my footings and my concrete Piers which are approximately 2 feet high I wanted to put sand in to reduce the cost of concrete
Hi Sean- we recommend not adding sand to make sure that the concrete is as strong as possible.
I want to lay a slab onto a rough existing foundation about 2,5cm or 3cm thick. Then stamp it a wood texture stamp for decoration.
Do you guys recommend concrete mix or Sand/Topping Mix?
Thnx
Concrete mix
I’m thinking of adding glass to the concrete for a certain sidewalk look .
What do you think?
How exactly do you plan on using the glass? Are you laying concrete and then placing glass pieces in the laid concrete for decorative look? Or are you mixing glass into the concrete for a shiny/speckled finished look? Depending on the method we may have some different tips. If you want to talk directly with one of our experts we can certainly set that up. Thanks for the great question.
I want to make a border around my flower bed using motor and broke. Tiles for decorating.Q. how dfy do .moter ha r to be before adding peices of tiles And how do I remove 2 by. 4 with out mortar sticking
Use a thin set mortar and you can apply tiles right away. You can apply a number of things to to the wood surface before pouring your mortar to prevent sticking like a varnish or oil or a form-release agent or lard/shortening.
If I want to fill in a long, about 0.5 to 1 inch wide crack, across a concrete patio, and then decorate the crack with small pieces of glass and tile what products are needed, and how do I make it perfectly even/flat with the existing concrete.
Here’s a video from Quikrete with detailed project instructions that might be helpful. https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-thin-repairs.asp
Can quikcrete be premixed and poured, or will it dry too fast? – Can I mix, then pour it inside a basketball pole?
You can use the Quikrete Conrete. It drys in 10-12 hours.
I wish I had seen this stuff before. I rebuilt part of a soil retaining wall, (originally; stone, brick and mortar) wall that had collapsed. The rest of the wall I had repaired with Spec mix S, but did not get to the part that collapsed, in time. 😉 Anyhow, I used the same Spec Mix S, for the base as I did in building the rest and the previous repair. I did dig a trench about 8-10 inches deep and 10 inches wide, and filled it at about a 45 degree angle with the Spec Mix mortar.
The Spec Mix S is for masonry and retaining walls so you used the right product and filled it correctly. You should be good to go but let us know if you have any other questions.
I am building a wall with Gabion baskets and rock the concern is during a severe storm the waves come up high enough to hit the wall and water will go through and get behind causing mud which can wash out and water that stays in the wall will freeze and cause problems so I am considering pouring enough cement into the baskets to fill the voids and stop the water would cement or mortar be the best do you have any thoughts
We have seen customers use high strength masonry cement for similar projects. However, this is not our specific area of expertise. Thanks for the question.
Hi
I have a front porch made out of used brick and wish to fill in the
mortor/grout/masonry cement (?) So it will be flush with the brick – making it to be more of an even surface. What can I use to do this?
Thanks
Mortar mix should work for this.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
Can I use Quickcrete hydraulic waterstop cement on my outside foundation wall to repair some crumbling and cracking below the corner of the basement window? want something that bonds well and that will fill it nicely. Dont want bugs or moisture getting in. Old water problem has been solved, just need something to fix the old damage. Will this work or do you reccommend something else?
Hydraulic waterstop sets fast and is water proof. It’s a good crack or hole sealer. This will make a permanent patch. It can be used on interior or exterior masonry walls. So this should work for you.
Can i mix type n masonary cement with the quickrete and pour a 3ft x3ft 3in thick slab for three steps into my garage
You shouldn’t have to mix the two types for a slab. Type N is basically for walls and chimneys and the quickrete is for slabs. So you can just use the quickrete and according to the concrete calculator it would take about 2- 60 lb bags.
can I use ready mixed concrete patch by DAP to reapply outside tiles on a porch
The mixed concrete patch by DAP is primarily used to patch small cracks and breaks, or spot level concrete and masonry surfaces such as basement walls, patios, steps, sidewalks and driveways. It dries to a durable, hard finish and is non-shrinking. For your project, it is recommended to use a polymer-modified, dry-set mortar adhesive like Simple Set Pre-Mixed Thin Set Mortar.
Good morning, I m planning on using the quickcrete for a project but from all that I have seen, I havent seen a stone or gravel in the mix. So, I as confused cause I want concrete not mortar. Can you explain pls and help me decide what to buy. I thought concrete should have visible coarse aggregates. But can’t see in the quickrete. Thanks.
Yussie
The concrete mix does have a gravel mix in it. You may not see it, but it’s in there so that is the one that you should probably use.
I am laying just 1row of breeze blocks can I use ready mix fence concrete. There are on 5 breeze blocks.
Yes- you should be good using the Ready Mix Fence Concrete. This is fairly fast setting so put your blocks in place and set them.
Can I use mortar mix to level a corner of sidewalk cement, and do I need a bonding cement to apply mortar over existing cemen? Thanks for your help
You would be better to use a vinyl concrete patcher if it is not too thick. The mortar would be a second choice. We would recommend using a bonding cement with it.
hey my name is kyle and i need to know if i can put cement on gravel for my basketball hoop so is that possible.
Frame with 2x4s and fill to the top for a 3-4″ slab. The concrete is then usually poured on the gravel.
I would like to build outdoor concrete coutertops. Which brand of mix will work best for Wisconsin weather? Quickrete Counter mix or Rapid Set Motar Mix? Do I need rebar for the Rapid Set? Slabs will be 8’× 24″, 6’×24″ and 6’× 36″.
Thank you.
Thank you for reaching out to us. Unfortunately we are an Ace Hardware store in Berks County Pennsylvania so we can only recommend based our local area. If you have a local Ace Hardware store, maybe you can call or email them and they would be more then happy to help answer your concrete questions. Thanks again.
What can I use to bond a concrete pier to concrete patio so I can put 4×4 post up? Mortar?
We need more information so we can answer your question correctly. So you may contact one of our stores directly by calling. Fleetwood (610) 944-7681 Douglassville (610) 385-4600 Sinking Spring (484) 878-2570
Thank you.
I am going to use it for basically a small area to extend my boys basketball playing area, which product should I buy
Concrete Mix or Fast Setting Concrete Mix
Hi. I want to do some DIY projects like planters, coasters, candle holders, maybe some small tables. What would be the best mix?
The Quikrete 5,000 Concrete Mix would be great for these projects.
I have a mud bed covered with a membrane for a shower pan I’m building. But I am concerned the mud bed won’t be durable enough for the final finish layer. I am not going to tile the floor. I want a finished concrete or mortar floor. What would be the best and strongest/most durable product for the final layer?
You can use Quikrete Fast Setting Concrete or Quikrete 5000 Concrete Mix.
Im in the process of creating stepping stones, however ive seen people use both mortar and concrete. Im confused as to which to use. Are they both ok to use for this task. I would like something solid, that would last for a very long time. What would you recommend?
Concrete mix would be best.
Hi, I’m building a new building with precast stone what is better for me to use mortar or sealant?
Mortar is most likely best but we recommend consulting with contractor or builder first to confirm.
I set a fence post without pre mixing regular concrete mix. Just pouring water over it like you would with fast setting concrete. Will this hold?
It should hold but you won’t know if a problem occurs. For example it could be solid at top but lower portion may be drier and brittle. So premixing is the best method.
If I sprinkle a dry cement mix on my gravel driveway, then wet it, will it help my gravel from washing down?
We don’t recommend using the cement mix for this. We’ve heard scenarios from customers where this did work for a few years and then we’ve heard other scenarios where it didn’t work at all because it just breaks up when you drive over it or it doesn’t solidify at all.
I’m need to repair the mortar between cinder blocks in the wall in my basement. I saw the comment about hydraulic cement being waterproof. What is the correct application in this case?
If there is a leak where water is coming through, hydraulic water-stop cement is best. However if you’re just repairing joints between cinder block, mortar mix will work well.
I am looking into a water holding tank for a reserve tank for our water well.
Have been debating on a plastic tank but am cautious because the warranties and it would be in an area of our finished basement. So I thought of possibly constructing a reservoir from cement.
What would you recommend to make one?
Thanks
You can certainly use concrete to make a water tank. That’s a more advanced project than the standard DIY projects we help with so you should consult a professional builder/contractor.
I am repairing the exterior of my 100 year old foundation. The foundation is basically rubble with some mortar thrown in and rocks are falling out as I excavate. The area that needs the most work is below grade. Would you recommend mortar and trying to replace the loose rocks or filling the voids with concrete?
Mortar should be sufficient. Repairing the mortar will restore the structural integrity and improve the appearance also.
Hi, thank you for your comments about the 100 year old stone foundation repair. I need help with mine. I had started with Quickcrete Sand/Topping Mix which was great to use but after watching YouTube videos about stone foundation repair, I was concerned that product may be to heavy against the foundation. Mortar was recommended for the lime against my foundation which likely includes a fair amount of limestone (and rubble and fieldstone). I had a foundation expert and another contractor out when I bought the house 22 years ago. They said the foundation was great and I have never had water issues. I just need to replace the exterior cement skim coat that now cracked off because I didn’t repair it in time. I wish I could share photos. I am a DIY woman, bought my first equipment and materials for this project. What do you recommend? Thanks very much.
Here is a great article from Hunker on how to skim coat concrete. Hope this helps.
https://www.hunker.com/12139262/how-to-skim-coat-concrete
Looking to make an outdoor table… can I use the mortar mix for the surface? If so, do I need to use any metal remesh for support? Also, do you have any recommendations for a food-grade finish/sealant for the table?
Thanks
Concrete mix would be best. If tabletop is 1″ thick or less, no need for reinforcement. If thicker than that, you’ll need to use wire mesh or hardware cloth for reinforcement. There’s a product called Eco Advance Concrete Waterproofer.
We installed formed pavers using a molded pattern. I would like to pour a dry mixture of something between the pavers (sweep into the cracks) and then gently add water over to create a barrier to prevent grass and weeds from growing between the pavers. What type of mix should I use for this project?
Quikrete Mortar Mix can be applied dry to the hardened concrete to fill in the joints. Brush or sweep the dry mix into the joints and then water.
I am rehanging a gate to a concrete wall. The previous holes have enlarged so that just a new anchor is not an option. I plan to fill the holes and drill new ones. Is quickcrete an adequate product for this? How long should I let it set before drilling?
A Portland Cement would work well because this is specifically formulated for high strength repairs. It should set in 24 – 48 hours.
How to reattach a piece of veneer stone that has fallen off a concrete foundation wall.
Apply about 1/2″ layer of mortar to the back of the stone and spread with a flat trowel to cover the entire back. Once you’ve pushed stone back into place, grout it and allow time to harden a bit but them smooth and scrape away excess.
I need to fill small acorn holes inmy driveway can I use quikrit sand morter. Nt dad used it to clean up stains but the pits getting bad.
What material is your driveway?
I need to replace a concrete walk that’s approx 9 ft. X 4 ft.
I want it 4″ thick. From what I’m reading, I’m thinking Quikrete.
(About 45 bags of it). I’m using a portable mixer to mix the water with it.
I’m new to this and I want to DYI.
Set me straight. What am I up against?
Thanks!
Here is a great step by step tool for building a concrete walkway from Quikrete. This should help answer your questions.
https://www.quikrete.com/athome/sidewalk.pdf
I am laying veneer stone blocks 19×20 on top of a glass fireplace hearth. Which mix should I use?
Type S Mortar- like Quikrete Masonry Cement
Hello folks, I am making stepping stones to use as my walkway. Please advise me, do I use Quikrete Mortar Mix.
Thank you!
Quikrete suggests using the Concrete Mix- it’s ideal for setting steps and walkways.
I have to repoint a three season stone fireplace which is located in the north where it can reach -35°F in the winter. Repairs are of two types. The face of the fireplace and inside the firebox.
1. Is there a concern for cracking the mortar in extreme cold, considering that water is used in the cement? I’m thinking that fresh mortar could stay damp for a long time into the cold season.
2. What is the best mortar mix to use? I have been heard of refractory cement for high temperature jobs.
3. Would two different mixes be advised?
In our area of Pennsylvania, we don’t see temperatures that low so we don’t have experience with working with mortar in those temperatures. Quikrete does have a website that offers live chat so they might be able to better answer your questions. Thank you for reaching out. https://www.quikrete.com/athome/main.asp
Hi guys im trying to repair some holes and some exterior spalling of my concrete foundation. I’ve previously read somewhere that cement and mortar mix do not mix but i would prefer to use the mortar mix that i already have. Would this be ok?
Mortar should be sufficient. Repairing the mortar will restore the structural integrity and improve the appearance also.
Hi. I accidentlly mixed a mortar bag with concrete together for a fence post. I bought concrete for the posts but had a mortar bag that I misplaced in the pile. Will the post be secure enough and what about the future possibly structural probless? Thanks.
You should be ok. Mortar has lower PSI than concrete but 1 bag should not make a huge difference; however, it is best to consult a building professional to be sure.
I have contracted to have a window in my den replaced. It is about a foot below the cathedral ceiling. The technician that measured the window space said the brick window frame is not level, that the builder apparently did not construct the brick frame level at the time of construction (in 2006)). My reason for replacing the window is that it leaks periodically, without a consistent pattern, and runs down the wall to my hardwood floor. The technician said the defective leveling appears to be the reason, and recommended that the contractor use either waterproof concrete or waterproof mortar to level the brick window frame before installing the window. I subsequently learned that the store I bought the replacement window from contracts with window installers, but not with contractors that level brick window frames. My two questions are 1) should waterproof cement, or waterproof mortar, be used?; and 2) do you know of any contractors that do brick window frame leveling? I’ve seen several window job contractors, none that specifically do brick window frame leveling.
Thank you, and please feel free to address any other suggestions you may have for my dilemma.
Waterproofing mortar would be sufficient. Not sure of your location but we are an Ace Hardware store in Pennsylvania so we are only familiar with our county in Pennsylvania.
Can I mix mortar and concrete, got mortar by mistake, have some concrete already
No you cannot- it will affect the structural integrity.
If I want to extend my driveway 4×9 feet will this product work?? Just the front to tires of my F250 will sit on it
Quikrete Concrete will work. Here are 2 project guides from Quikrete that will help.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/concretesidewalksandsmallslabs.pdf
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/concretedrivewaysandcurbs.pdf
Good evening,
I have a 1920s basement that requires repair. There is some degradation in some of the concrete due to water. I am wanting to render the wall, but also increase/maintain the structural integrity. I was advised to use mortar, as the concrete used in my area in the 1920s allows for it to breathe and moisture to get through (I do plan to add a French drain and liquid rubber coating on the exterior). That being said I was also told most concrete nowadays does not allow this. What would be your suggestion.
Side notes- use of river rock in concrete. Areas of degradation are no more that 1’x1′ and depths not exceeding 3/4 “. Lots of water and snow in my area almost year round
Quikrete has a great product called Hydraulic Water Stop Cement. Here’s a video and written instructions from Quikrete. https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-repairing-leaks.asp
This is perfect for cracks and leaks. For structural repair, concrete is probably best due to it’s strength but consult with a building professional in your area.
I am building a step for my front door 2 feet by 4 feet by 4 inches thick, can I use quikrete sand mix? How many 60 lb bags ( I can’t handle the 80 lb bags) do I need. What do you recommend for the job.
Thank you,
Mike H
For steps, Quickrete Concrete Mix or Quikrete 5000 Concrete is recommended. For a 2 x 4 at 4″ thickness, you would need about 6 – 60 lb bags.
Thank you for explaining that concrete is used for structural projects while the mortar is used as a bonding agent. I’ve been wanting to give my house a more textured look. I wonder how I could use cement to do this.
Here is some information from Quikrete about special finishes for concrete. https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/specialconcretefinishes.pdf
Their website is a great resource also.
Happy Halloween! My family is big into Halloween, and my wife found these fireproof “logs” which are priced outside of our budget…
https://www.countryliving.com/home-design/decorating-ideas/a44923/skull-shaped-fireproof-logs/
I thought perhaps I could DIY them. I found a suitable mold and bought the rutland high heat mortar (to pour in the mold). But I am concerned the mortar will be too brittle. Any recommendation on concrete, mortar, or something else to try for my DIY project? Thanks!
You should be able to make these out of Quikrete Concrete as concrete is naturally fire resistant. Quikrete has a live chat on their website and are very responsive so you could reach out to them as they are the concrete experts.
https://www.quikrete.com/athome/main.asp
I would like to use at my travertine to my front door, what is the best way to do this?
Here is a great article from Quikrete about laying tile. Hope this helps- they are recommending thin set mortrar. https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/tileinstallation.pdf
Quikrete’s website also has a very helpful live chat feature and they can answer your question almost instantly. They are concrete experts. https://www.quikrete.com
I have a cinder block hole to fill in ( about 5” X 5” X 5” ) I mixed water and mortar in a container got a good consistency however the mixture is not hardening or thickening at all in the container . Is it possible that the mortar is bad ? Its been in storage for 6 years .
Generally, mortar mix (store unopened in a dry place) has a shelf life of 9 months.
I would like to apply a mortar between the stone crevices of a dry-stack stone wall to eliminate gophers from pushing dirt through the crevices which ends up in a pile on my flagstone patio. Not sure which Quickrete product I should purchase.
Depends if you have natural stone or veneer stone, but here is a great guide from Quikrete about what product to use based on the application.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
I am pouring a shower curb that will be 6”x 5’ and a depth of 4”. It needs to be a smooth finish. I bought mortar mix and rebar. Is this the correct product to use? Thank you!
Mortar should be ok- just make sure to follow instructions so that is mixed to the proper wet consistency – otherwise a crack could develop.
I am putting natural stone on the face of a fireplace, what is a good material to use to secure the rocks to the wall.
Mason mix will work. It’s best for structural blocks or brick applications and has easy, superior workability.
I wanted to lay a row of bricks over an existing row of bricks. The Home Depot guys set me up with Quickcrete (concrete). It turned out awful (lookswise). Now I have learned I should have used Mortar. Do I have to chisel and remove all of the concrete to use the mortar or can I fill in the gaps with the mortar, and level it all out with the mortar so it looks better (in essence using the mortar to cover the concrete in full)?
It is best to clean out/chisel the joints, wash the wall/surface, then apply the mortar to the joints. Quikrete has a very helpful website with instant online chat and we do recommend asking for their advice also as they are industry experts. https://www.quikrete.com/
Want to build a concrete bar in a micro brewery. Approx. 30′ long. Looking to do a build in place project. What product do you recommend? What thickness?
Thanks – Paul
Here is a video and project instructions for building a concrete countertop from Quikrete using Concrete Countertop Mix. Hope this helps. They also have a live chat on their website that is very helpful and they can provide you even more info for your project.
https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-forming-concrete-counter-tops.asp#instructions
https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/countertopmix.asp
Hello,
I am casting pool patio bullnose for a remodel, is high stength mortar ok for 1.5 inch thick mold? Dimensions of bullnose is 9x18x1.5. This will lay on top of existing concrete pool patio.
Thanks – Leon
For a walking surface like pool coping, a concrete like Quikrete 5000 may be a better choice. See the product selection guides here for more info: Concrete:https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/concreteselectorguide.pdf, Mortar mix: https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
I’m repairing a large hole (about 5-6 blocks in size) in the cinder/concrete block foundation going around my home where a car hit it. Should I use mortar to lay the replacement blocks and fill with cement or could I use cement for both?
Also do I have to remove the old mortar/cement(not sure which was used originally) from the blocks not being replaced?
You will want to chip out all of the old block and mortar and use a wire brush to get as clean a surface as possible. In general, the best choice for setting the new concrete block would be a mortar like Quikrete Mason Mix. Quikrete has a great video detailing how to correctly lay concrete block, check it out here: https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-blockwall.asp. Quikrete also has a very helpful chat feature on their website, http://www.Quikrete.com to get you advice from the industry experts.
Hi, I use rapid concrete in silicon molds to make little objects and plant pots. Although it’s supposed to set in 30 min even when I live it to dry overnight it still brittle when it come out of the mold and it stays that way. How can I make it more resistant?
Although the Fast Setting Concrete mix becomes hard in 20-40 minutes, long-lasting strength comes from the curing process. Temperature and humidity are big factors in the final strength of the product, so ensure that the environment is temperate and has adequate moisture – the concrete should not get too dry while curing. For more specific information, check out the product information from Quikrete here: https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/data_sheet-fast%20setting%20concrete%20mix%201004-50.pdf, or reach out to the industry experts with the chat tool at http://www.Quikrete.com.
Can I use the quickset mortar mix to make stepping stones for a walkway?
Mortar Mix is more suited as a bonding agent for stones, bricks, or concrete blocks. For stepping stones, you’ll want to use a concrete mix, like the ones in this handy guide: Quikrete:https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/concreteselectorguide.pdf.
I have a slate patio laid over a base of crushed granite and sand.
The gaps between the stones were filled with sand.
I want to replace the sand in the gaps with concrete or mortar.
Which would be best?
I plan to work a small area each day, like 4ft x 4ft.
So I will need to be able to mix small batches.
Can the mix be applied with a piping bag, or a caulking gun ?
Quikrete has a great video on laying a patio using jointing or polymeric sand, which will set hard and last a long time if the instructions are followed correctly. Check it out here; https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-paver-or-natural-stone-patio.asp
If you choose to go with a mix product, mortar would be the best choice. You should be able to mix only as much mortar as you need at a time. The standard method to apply the mortar would be with a trowel so you can firmly press the mortar into place.
Hello, should I use morter mix or? I only want a thin skim coat maybe 3/16 ? Less in some areas? to cover some imperfections on my home’s exterior in AZ. The paint that is on there is flat and has baked in the AZ sun for 13 years I am going to power wash then roll on weld-crete. What is my best choice for skimming?? Thank you! PS I love Ace
Mortar mix is more designed for bonding stone, brick, and concrete block so it may not be a good choice for a finished surface. If the exterior of your home is stucco, Quikrete has an excellent video on crack and hole repair with product recommendations that may be helpful: https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-repairing-sealing-cracks-holes-in-stucco.asp. For further help, we recommend contacting your local Ace Hardware – our stores are in Pennsylvania, so a local expert would have more experience with homes in your area. You can also use the online chat at Quikrete.com; their industry-leading experts are available to answer any specific questions there!
I am building a short (1 ft) flower bed (rock wall) out of River rocks…..should I use Mortar or Concrete to stick my rocks together?
Does it matter?
Thanks!
Mortar would be a much better choice as it is designed for long-lasting bonds for rock, brick, and concrete block. Concrete is a great choice for a finished surface, but as a bonding agent, mortar is what you need.
We have paver stone stairs in our backyard. Installers had used locklite landscape glue to hold them in. But one of the stone is loose and reapplying landscape glue has not helped. So planning to use mortar or concrete to hold the stone to the bottom of the stairs.
Can you please advise if this good and should i be using Concrete or mortar for this? If mortar, should i be using type N or type S. Thanks in advance
For adhering stone to another surface, mortar would be the more appropriate product. Type S mortar is designed for structural applications, like building a brick or concrete block wall, where type N mortar is designed for non-structural work like veneer stonework and planters. If you’ll be walking on the surface of the product (like on the stair tread), type S might be a good choice. However, if you are simply applying the stonework to a vertical face, (like on the riser portion of the stair), type N may suit your needs. Check out this mortar selection guide from the industry experts at Quikrete; https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf.
I cut a 9 inch wide channel in concrete driveway for a row of pavers. What material works best to bed and grout the pavers.?
Jointing Sand is a good choice. It’s a graded sand blended with polymer binder specifically designed for filling joints between pavers.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/data_sheet-powerloc%201150-47.pdf
I used cinder block as the base for my outside two steps up to a fire pit area, I filled the blocks with Quickrete fast setting concrete to about 2 inches from the top. Now I want to use a top coat to cover the blocks with a finished look. My contractor suggest Spec Mix. Would this work since it is a mortar or is there another non rock solution?
Yes Spec Mix – per your contractor’s suggestion is best.
I am putting in a walkway using bricks. From what I have read, I am putting down first a 2 to 3 inch base that will be tamped down firmly. Then, will put a 1 to 2″ paver sand that will be leveled. I will then put down each brick using a 1/2″ space between each brick, leveling carefully with rubber mallet.
I will be pouring the mix dry, filling up all the spaces between the bricks, sweeping it clean, then misting the mix once every hour for a few hours.
From what I have read, some use the Quikrete Brown Jointing Sand, some use the Quikrete Patio Paver Jointing Sand, I read one of your replies to use Concrete Mix, and also some use Mortar Mix. So which one would you recommend, or does it matter?
I would assume Concrete Mix is not a good choice since the spacing is only 1/2″. Better to use a mix that does not have gravel, correct?
Since there are definite differences in price and availability, what would you recommend?
Thanks!
Fill walkway joints with sand or mortar mix. Sweep the sand or dry mortar into the section contours and spaces between sections. For mortar, mist the joints with water so they harden in place.
Hello
I am trying to fill and seal gaps between my outside sidewalk where it meets my foundation just above the basement. What should I be using to do this?
This link recommends using caulk and reapplying yearly.
https://www.familyhandyman.com/masonry/concrete-repair/caulking-concrete-cracks/
Is there something better and more sustainable? Can I use type N masonry cement for this?
Yes we recommend caulk as well. But you can also ask Quikrete for advice online via chat and they will respond almost immediately. http://www.quikrete.com
Can I use mortar to make a top/cap for a brick smoker?
3 1/2 × 3 1/2 1 1/2 inch thick.
Yes- you can use mortar mix – it is specifically designed for laying brick, stone, and concrete units.
I’m redoing an outside shower floor and want to use concrete with some river rock mixed in to make it look better, will quikrete work for this project?
Yes but it is recommended to mix the concrete according to package instructions then add your rocks after you pour concrete but before it hardens. Once no water is visible on the surface of your poured concrete you can add the rocks over the surface of the concrete and drag a broom over the entire surface to spread evenly. Allow it to sit until surface is no longer shiny and wet. Then sweep surface with a broom. Then spray the surface gently with water. Allow to completely dry before using.
I used quick crete Mortar mix to set post by accident for a deck. Will the post be strong enough? If not what do I need to do?
Mortar is not recommended for deck supports as it is not as strong as concrete. We suggest contacting your local contractor to ask or you can contact Quikrete directly at https://www.quikrete.com/.
I’m building a slump stone block wall and using RapidSet mortar mix. I’m only mixing enough for one block at a time. Problem is, it starts to harden too quickly, and I don’t have the time to position the blocks correctly. Is there a slower setting mortar mix, that will give me a little more time and flexibility? Quikrete Type N? Type S?
So the Type S and Type N is actually Mason Mix- not Mortar. For structural building, Mason Mix Type S is recommended. Whether you use regular Mortar Mix or Mason Mix on projects, dry/cure time is 24 – 48 hours.
I am installing glass brick to replace the basement windows, the rough opening was taller than expected when removing the old window (there was a concrete sill on top of the wall that pushed right off). I’ve been using Mason mix type S to raise the sill to where it was, just wanted to make sure this was okay or should I have used something different?
Mason Mix Type is best for structural block and brick applications so this should be ok.
I have used quikrete to repair 3 damaged bricks. I would like to paint the finished area white.
How long do I need to wait before painting?
Minimum of 24 hours
Ty!
Hi. I’m laying a side area of my patio with 12X12 X1 brick slabs. I picked up the Rapid Set Concrete mix, and think I should have gotten mortar. Will the concrete work just fine, or should I trade it back for mortar? The size of the area is 14 X 2
Typically a brick patio slab would be built with base sand and jointing sand. See project instructions below.
https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-paver-or-natural-stone-patio.asp#instructions
I have rebuilt an old stone foundation using mortar to bond the stones, with a wall width of about 8″. I now need to level out the surface of the foundation in order to lay down wood bottom plates and anchor them to the foundation. Should I use mortar or concrete to level out the surface of the foundation? Keeping in mind that I plan to drill anchors into the stone and concrete/mortar, and the thickness of the concrete/mortar needs to be such that retaining walls are not necessary and it will not run off the sides of the foundation. The load the foundation will be bearing will not be too significant.
Concrete is best for structural foundations.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/concreteselectorguide.pdf
I have a small square hole (15” x 15” with a depth of 4”) in my poured concrete garage floor where an old chimney was located. I removed the chimney and now there is just the hole with a dirt base (in a non-traffic area—no walking or driving on it). The surrounding garage floor has a really smooth finish, so I’m concerned that concrete mix will be too rough and show too much gravel. Any suggestions as to what I should use?
Concrete should be fine; however for a smoother finish a concrete trowel is recommended. Just use it at the right time- step on surface and then check the bottom of your shoe, if there is no reside then that’s when you should use the trowel to finish and smooth the concrete.
I used quickrete quick setting cement to lay some brick,is that ok instead of regular mortar mix?
We recommend mortar or mason mix for brick applications.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
I am looking to fix my stone steps. These are outside steps used daily to access the house. Should I use concrete or mortar for the repairs?
For structural applications, concrete or mason mix is best. See these product selector guides.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/concreteselectorguide.pdf
I have a question. Recently, poured small steps to a patio but did not do a good job with smoothing. Can I correct corners with mortar mix. All I want is to smooth out a few places. Also, need to fill vertical holes in the steps. Please advise
Quick setting cement should work well – it can be molded and shaped to the corners and sets in 10 minutes. Here’s some project instructions from Quikrete.
https://www.quikrete.com/athome/repairingsteps.asp
I am replacing loose pavers on the edge of my front porch. The haunch edging has cracked and the pavers have shifted several inches. I want to replace the existing haunching with new haunching. My question is, should the new haunching set on top of sand only, or gravel?
Gravel would probably be best.
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I am extending a deck and have to level of a brick wall, which I will then skim to form a level platform about 40mm thick to support a wooden beam – would quickcrete morter mix be suitable for this application?
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
For structural brick work, structural mortrar, which is mason mix, is suggested.
I need to fill the holes in my retaining wall block that was used to make my back steps. after I fill the holes I need to glue the pavers back on then drill through the pavers into the cement and then use 3/8 masonry bolts to install my railings and posts. My question is what is the best thing to use to fill the holes and be able to drill for the bolts as quick as possible.( anchoring cement, hydraulic cement or fast setting cement.
Anchoring cement sets in 10-30 minutes and is typically used for fastening bolts or anything metal in concrete so this should work for you.
I am setting a 2”x2” metal post for a gate I made. I want to make sure it won’t bend so I am filling it with mortar mixing and adding a piece of rebar in the middle to strengthen it.
Is that my best bet? The aggregate in concrete makes it too hard to Pore down down the post.
Mortar is typically used for laying bricks, masonry units, and stone. We recommend fast setting concrete.
https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/fastsettingconcretemix.asp
I am building a 48″ square and 18″ tall fire pit using cinder block and covering the top in brick pavers and the sides in river rock. I am using quikrete mortar to attach the pavers and stone, how thick can I apply the mortar on the walls before I attach the rocks to smooth out some inconsistencies?
Apply 1/2″ of mortar to 5 sq ft area and then apply 1/2″ of mortar to the back of stone.
if I have an area that needs 3/4″ – 1″ will that be ok?
You should be ok but the manufacturers Quikrete have a very helpful website with live chat and you can also verify with them. https://www.quikrete.com/
I am planning to use concrete blocks that are 2 feet x 2 feet by 4 to 6 inches as a floor in my carport. I need to space the blocks 4 to six inches apart so that it will fill the area. What do I use between the blocks, morter or cement? It will be over packed dirt or sand and sometimes I will be jacking car up or use jack stands.
For structural block applications, mason mix is recommended. https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
What would be the better product to fill a 1-2″ wide gap between my sidewalk and house slab? Gap is about 4-6″ deep and sidewalk is about 40′ long.
Backer rod and caulk/sealant is probably best for this project but Quikrete website is a great place to ask for advice also. https://www.quikrete.com/
I need to put a skim coat on a domed pizza oven as the original overcoat is fine-line cracking (5 years old). There is the inner cast oven, thick rock wool insulation (held in shape by chicken wire) and then the original overcoat on that which is about an inch plus thick. As I noted, and as expected, fine cracks have developed and I just want to seal the entire dome once again. I am thinking 1/4 inch application using a trowel? What Quickrete product would be best for this application and do I need to apply a bonding agent as well?
Typically to repair a pizza oven, it’s recommended to use mortar, refractory cement, or clay. To use the Quikrete mortar, make sure surface is free of any of loose debris for best possible bond. Curing is required due to the very high heat conditions. Apply a gentle mist of water to surface to prevent premature drying and improve strength of mortar. For more advice about your project, Quikrete has a helpful website. https://www.quikrete.com/
Hi, I want to make decorative stepping stones with sea glass or pebbles imbedded in the top. Not really for walking on. I accidentally bought Quikrete Mortar. Would this be ok for what I want, or should I return it for something else? Thanks
Concrete or mortar mix would be best but Quikrete has a live chat option on their website that is very helpful and you can check with them. Thank you. https://www.quikrete.com/
Hi I have a slab which is not leveled.
it is about 10′ long and 1.5″ elevation difference .
can I place mortar at 1.5′ thick and tapering along the length of the 10′ to 0″?
I can not use concrete mix as a filler to level the slab, because slab is not flat. one side is 1.5″ higher than the other side.
Thanks
Thin Set Mortar might be best for this application. https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/thinsetmultipurpose.asp
Hi I am looking to cast a table top. I want a smooth finish and will cast the top upside down. Can I use mortar mix to do this? I also want to to make the top lighter, can i use fiber glass to add volume and reduce weight? I will be using steel mesh to the top and also 10mm bars around the edge.
Here is a step by step project video from Quikrete about how to make a concrete countertop that should give you a similar effect. https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-forming-concrete-counter-tops.asp
Im repairing an older foundation wall of poured concrete that has very big aggregate in the original wall. The home is 95 yrs old. My question is do I use a concrete product or mortar mix to skim cracks and repair some rather large areas under the existing wall that have come out while cleaning and prepping the area to be repaired?
Here’s some instructions for repairing concrete from Quikrete. They recommend concrete products. See the full list here.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/repairingconcrete.pdf
can I spread dry quikcrete over limestone gravel and wet it to harden as a pad
Unfortunately no – the Quikrete cannot be poured dry and then sprayed with water- the slab will not set. The concrete has to be mixed to set.
I have uneven brick pavers which I would like to make an even surface so I can put artificial grass on top of. Can I use mortar to do this@
To make an even slab over top of brick pavers, self-leveling concrete would be best.
I’m not finding any straight forward answer here. I am making pavers, 2 inches thick. Is mortar mix too weak for this application, or not?
If you’re asking about actually laying pavers, you’ll use gravel, base sand, and jointing sand. https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-paver-or-natural-stone-patio.asp
If you’re asking about actually making and molding pavers, then concrete is suggested. https://www.quikrete.com/athome/walkmaker.asp
Hi! If I dig 10′ square footings with 6″ edges and 4″ pad, layer gravel & rebar, pour & level dry Quikrete, then gently wet thoroughly, will the finished product be sufficient to support a 4 man hot tub?
Unfortunately no – the Quikrete cannot be poured dry and then sprayed with water- the slab will not set. It has to be mixed to set.
Thank you for this information. So I misunderstood the difference between mortar and concrete :/
I want to build a shower wall of 1.2m x 1.8 meter. . The cement is 42.5 ‘N. I mixed it 1:2 (one part cement 2 parts building sand) I understand now that it should have been 1:3 or perhaps 1:4. I only built the bottom 2 layers yet. Should I rather start over?
For structural applications, concrete is best and you should follow mixing instructions on the package. As far as starting over, it’s best to refer to local contractor or concrete professional. Quikrete has a website with live chat and they could answer your question.
https://www.quikrete.com/
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/concreteselectorguide.pdf
Hi I was mortoring my walls it appears home Depot is out of mortar can I use sand mix and will it work the same as mortar
No it will not work the same – you should continue to use mortar.
Hello, I am repairing a stucco finish on cinder block where it has failed and I have removed all the loose stucco. Do I need to use a bonding agent over the cinder block first or can I just use a type s mortar mix directly over the block? And if so, any recommendations for bonding agent? I went around with a hose and scrub brush to remove any dust or debris already. Thanks.
A bonding agent is recommended.
https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/concretebondingadhesive.asp
I need to patch some small gaps in our exterior brick wall because mice may be using them to get into the house. I’d like to do it now, but the temperature will go below freezing every day for the next week or so. Can I use mortar mix? Or hydraulic cement?
It’s not recommended to use any cement product below 40 degrees F.
Hi, I am trying to make curling rocks out of stainless steel bowls filled with Cement and once the Cement is cured remove the bowls…..am I better off using concrete mix or mortar mix….or something else?
Concrete would most likely be best. Here are project instructions for a concrete bowl lamp so this should give you some guidance. https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-concrete-bowl-lamp.asp
Should I use mortar (which type?) or concrete? To refasten and tuck point some broken slate sidewalk stones to the cement slab that is underneath.
You can use mortar. Our Ace stores sell Quikrete mortar- not all Ace stores do sell Quikrete. Here is the product selector from Quikrete and just your straight Mortar Mix should work. Always best to check with your local Ace Hardware store though – they have experts that can help you too. Thank you for checking with us.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
We want to put down a 36×20 (6″ thick) parking pad. Is there any way at all I can use commercial grade mortar cement (I am stuck with 128 bags at 75lbs each and would like to use it up) and mix it with other ingredients to make it work?
We don’t recommend this. Mortar is not as strong as concrete and is not typically used as a “building” material. Mortar acts like a glue to hold together bricks, stones, etc.
I’m making concrete planters with the Quikrete mortar mix, but it keeps breaking. any suggestions?
It could be breaking for a number of reasons – too much water in the mix, not curing long enough, the mix you chose may be not the best for the planter you’re making (depends on your specific project), could be an old bag of mix that expired, or you could have an issue with the mold your using. Quikrete has a great help desk that you can provide additional details to them and they can further answer your question. https://www.quikrete.com/
Looking for a solution for my concrete pad. It was brought to grade using crushed stone (approximately 7″) and compacted. Pad was poured and now I have the crushed stone remaining. I would like to find a filler that once I remove the form board that is still holding the crushed stone back, that I can fill the void of stone that falls out and grout it to a semi smooth finish. Don’t worry this is not a traffic area, only the end of my carport pad. I was thinking of putting chicken wire in for reinforcement and then filling with some kind of mortar mix/grout….. Any recommendations would be appreciated.
Quikrete are the experts and are a great resource for these questions. They have a live chat on their website also. https://www.quikrete.com/
The top corner of my garage door bricks cracked at the lintel and stair stepped 7 layers up to the eve. Ground out the cracked mortar & replaced 2 of the bricks that were broke.
The job turned out very good, but I did the complete repair with 10#/bag ( Quikrete Cement mix ) instead of 10#/bag (Quikrete Mortar mix ).
How bad did I screw up using the Cement mix instead of the mortar mix. I would sure hate to completely grind out all the cement & replace with motor mix.
While mason and mortar mix are typically used for structural and non structural brick applications, you should be ok with the concerete mix but it’s best to check with your local hardware/home improvement store as applications can vary based on temperature. Also Quikrete has a helpful website too. https://www.quikrete.com/
Can I use quickrete mortar mix to pour a 3 inch thick hearth
For a hearth pad, concrete mix would be best.
I pulled down drywall and insulation from a basement wall and discovered a leaking pvc pipe that was apparently used at one time for a washer/dryer. The pipe is about 3 inches in diameter, has some mud/pebbles in it, and continues to leak down the wall. I would like to fill the pvc then seal the hole. With what should I use to fill and seal the hole (Concrete? Mortar? Hydraulic cement?) After sealing it, should I apply Dry-Lock to the patch?
Concrete should work fine (as long as you don’t ever plan on using that pipe) and then you can seal it with a PVC cap or plug.
Thank you, Weaver’s Ace Hardware.
Turns out a 3-inch gripper plug did the trick!
Hi I want to my make my own garden pots for plant…
How is the best measurement for the sand and sement?
Here are detailed instructions with a list of materials from Quikrete.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/castconcreteplanters.pdf
What kind of concrete or mortar should I use to put around a plastic ball. The quikrete I used has small pebbles in it which made the finish rough. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Countertop mix is more flowable so should work better for your project. https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/countertopmix.asp
See other round-shaped projects here – this should help guide you also. https://www.quikrete.com/athome/videos.asp
Hello,
I need to replace, in some spots, the cement that is failing and falling out of the spaces between the bricks in my chimney. The house is from 1920. What mix should I use? Thank you.
Mortar would be best for your project. The Quikrete website has some helpful project instructions for working with brick and they also have a great live chat feature.
https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/mortarmix.asp
I’m building a large smokeless outdoor wood fire ring using 16″ blocks with 1.5 in pipe between each brick. This will get very hot. There will be a small forge at one end.
I’m worried about the 1.5 in between bricks being big for mortar. Is there something special for high heat?
Here are some project instructions from Quikrete that my help. It’s for building a brick barbecue so a similar application to your. They use mortar as well as fiber reinforced concrete mix.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/barbeques.pdf
I’m looking to replace an approximately 2’x3’x1.5″ thick slab of stucco at the base of my house that was ripped off by a truck. What would be the best product to use for this job?
Here are some helpful instructions with product suggestions from Quikrete for replacing stucco or building concrete slabs.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/repairingstucco.pdf
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/stuccoing.pdf
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/concretesidewalksandsmallslabs.pdf
I have irregular shaped flagstone set on a concrete pad. I need to repair a continous crack between between a few stones. The crack has been widen and cleaned from debris. The crack is an inch deep in some areas and less than that in other spots and 4 feet long.. What I’ve read so far is the best material to fill the crack is to use concrete. I did buy Mortar S originally, but I’m not sure it that is the proper material to use on my walkway. Suggestions are most welcomed.
Thank you
Concrete mix would work best.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/concreteselectorguide.pdf
Hi, I want to edge my lawn with bricks or blocks – what cement/mortar product should I use please?
Regards Matt
For brick applications, mason mix would work well.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/mortarselectorguide.pdf
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/concreteselectorguide.pdf
https://www.quikrete.com/athome/video-paver-or-natural-stone-patio.asp
Thank you for the valuable informative blog post about the difference between the mortar and concrete.
I want to build a 2-high brick retaining wall for a flowerbed and want to use something to keep my bricks level and keep them from sinking in the ground. Should I use quikrete concrete mix as a foundation?
See Quikrete’s instructions for building a brick retaining wall. They recommend using mortar or mason to reinforce your bricks. But you can use also concrete mix to build a solid foundation.
https://www.quikrete.com/pdfs/projects/brickblockandstoneretainingwalls.pdf
Hello, I built a 2 steps landing using 24x24x2 concrete steps. Can I add a 1″ layer on top of concrete or mortar mix type s? Which is best?
Thanks
For 1” – 1.5” layer, we recommend a Concrete Bonding Agent. Then you can use Concrete Mix. See links to Quikrete below and visit their website for project instructions.
https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/concretebondingadhesive.asp
https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/concretemix.asp
Great! Thanks a lot for your quick response.
Which one is better for out door ceramic
Ceramic is a different material but if you want to make something like a cement planter or bench, concrete mix is best.
I just purchased 2 5cm Travertine slabs 6’ X 8’ and I need to know how to set my foundation in the entryway of my house?
Setting: currently the foundation is removed down to dirt about 9 inches deep. I live in an area in SO CA that is dry so I don’t think I need to worry about moisture any recommendations on how to prep?
Here’s some helpful instructions:
https://www.travertinemart.com/travertine-installation
Excellent! Thank you so much!!
THE MORTAR JOINTS HAVE CRACKED BETWEEN SOME OF MY PAVERS ON MY FRONT PORCH. CAN I SWEEP READY MIX BETWEEN THEM AND MIST IT OR SHOULD I SEAL THE PAVERS FIRST TO KEEP READY MIX FROM GETTING INTO PORES OF PAVERS .Then come back and seal the whole thing.
You should be able to mist in a polymeric sand specific for pavers.
https://www.quikrete.com/productlines/sandpolymericjointing.asp